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03/24/2023 03:30 PM Senate EDUCATION

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03:30:49 PM Start
03:33:06 PM Confirmation Hearing(s)
05:03:10 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
Consideration of Governor’s Appointees for the
University of Alaska Board of Regents:
Dennis Michel, Bethany Marcum, Joey Crum,
Paula Harrison
Consideration of Governor’s Appointees for the
Professional Teaching Practices Commission:
Mary Carlson
*+ SB 97 TEACHER RECRUITMENT; LUMP SUM PAYMENT TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
Susan McKenzie, Director of Innovation and
Education Excellence
SENATE BILL: LEGISLATION TO EXTEND THE ALASKA
EDUCATION TAX CREDIT PROGRAM
<Above Item Removed from Agenda>
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 24, 2023                                                                                         
                           3:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Löki Tobin, Chair                                                                                                       
Senator Gary Stevens, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Jesse Bjorkman                                                                                                          
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Professional Teaching Practices Commission                                                                                    
Mary Carlson - Fairbanks                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
University Of Alaska Board of Regents                                                                                         
Bethany Marcum - Anchorage                                                                                                      
Dennis Michel - Fairbanks                                                                                                       
Paula Harrison - Fairbanks                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 97                                                                                                              
"An Act authorizing lump sum payments for certain teachers as                                                                   
retention and recruitment incentives; and providing for an                                                                      
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DENNIS MICHEL, Appointee                                                                                                        
University of Alaska Board of Regents                                                                                           
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as  the governor's appointee to the                                                             
University of Alaska Board of Regents.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MARY CARLSON, Appointee                                                                                                         
Professional Teaching Practices Commission                                                                                      
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as  the governor's appointee to the                                                             
Professional Teaching Practices Commission.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BETHANY MARCUM, Appointee                                                                                                       
University of Alaska Board of Regents                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as  the governor's appointee to the                                                             
University of Alaska Board of Regents.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
YARROW SILVERS, representing self                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in  opposition to  the appointment                                                             
of Ms. Marcum                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MAE PITKA, Teacher                                                                                                              
Russian Mission School                                                                                                          
Russian Mission, Alaska                                                                                                         
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on  SB 97. The  hearing for  SB 97                                                             
was scheduled but not heard.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOAN FRANZ, representing self                                                                                                   
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in  opposition to  the appointment                                                             
of Ms. Marcum.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JOELLE HALL, President                                                                                                          
American  Federation   of  Labor   and  Congress   of  Industrial                                                               
Organizations (AFL-CIO) Alaska                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in  opposition to  the appointment                                                             
of Ms. Marcum.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
KIM HAYS, representing self                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in  opposition to  the appointment                                                             
of Ms. Marcum.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MIKE GRUNST, representing self                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in  opposition to  the appointment                                                             
of Ms. Marcum.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ALEX JORGENSEN, representing self                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in  opposition to  the appointment                                                             
of Ms. Marcum.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HERMAN MORGAN, representing self                                                                                                
Aniak, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in  support of the  appointment of                                                             
Ms. Marcum.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ALEX BAKER, representing self                                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in  opposition to  the appointment                                                             
of Ms. Marcum.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
LAURA BONNER, representing self                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in  opposition to  the appointment                                                             
of Ms. Marcum.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PAULA HARRISON, Appointee                                                                                                       
University of Alaska Board of Regents                                                                                           
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as  the governor's appointee to the                                                             
University of Alaska Board of Regents.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:30:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR LÖKI  TOBIN called the Senate  Education Standing Committee                                                             
meeting to order  at 3:30 p.m. Present at the  call to order were                                                               
Senators Kiehl, Gray-Jackson, Dunbar, Stevens, and Chair Tobin.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                        
                    CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                 
           PROFESSIONAL TEACHING PRACTICES COMMISSION                                                                       
             UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA BOARD OF REGENTS                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
3:33:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN  announced  the   consideration  of  the  governor's                                                               
appointee  Mary Carlson  to the  Professional Teaching  Practices                                                               
Commission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:33:45 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:34:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN reconvened the meeting. She stated that the                                                                         
connection with Ms. Carlson was lost, and the committee would                                                                   
consider the next item on the agenda.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
3:34:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN  announced  the   consideration  of  the  governor's                                                               
appointee  Mr.  Michel  to  the University  of  Alaska  Board  of                                                               
Regents.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:34:59 PM                                                                                                                    
DENNIS MICHEL, Appointee, University  of Alaska Board of Regents,                                                               
Fairbanks,  Alaska,   provided  a  brief  educational   and  work                                                               
history. He  is interested in  being a regent because  Alaska has                                                               
been very  good to his  family. He  would like to  afford younger                                                               
Alaskans  the opportunities  he had.  He  said he  would like  to                                                               
influence  Alaska's youth  to  receive training  to  work in  the                                                               
trades through the university to work in the trades.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:39:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS   stated  he  was  concerned   about  university                                                               
maintenance and asked if Mr. Michel could elaborate.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MICHEL  replied that  he has  only been  in the  position six                                                               
weeks  and  would  like  to  know  more  before  commenting.  His                                                               
understanding is  that maintenance issues at  the university need                                                               
addressing.  He  opined  that addressing  maintenance  issues  is                                                               
cheaper than new buildings.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS said  having someone on the Board  of Regents who                                                               
understands maintenance  issues would be good.  He clarified that                                                               
the Board of Regents has  asked for money to perform maintenance,                                                               
but the legislature did not fund it.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MICHEL assured the committee  that the university would spend                                                               
maintenance appropriations wisely.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:41:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   GRAY-JACKSON   thanked   the   appointees   for   their                                                               
willingness  to serve.  She said  the Board  of Regents'  mission                                                               
statement  emphasizes the  North and  honors Alaska's  indigenous                                                               
and diverse people. She asked  Mr. Michel whether he supports the                                                               
mission and to  give his thoughts about the role  of diversity at                                                               
the  university. She  also asked  Mr.  Michel to  explain how  he                                                               
would uphold the mission.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:42:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MICHEL replied that he is  part Native. He said hard work and                                                               
effort paid  off in overcoming  struggles and  achieving success.                                                               
He  is extremely  open to  helping indigenous  people. He  opined                                                               
that  his  visits  with  indigenous students  and  staff  at  the                                                               
University  of  Alaska  Fairbanks (UAF)  were  top-notch  because                                                               
students  felt  comfortable  speaking  with him.  He  stated  his                                                               
belief  that  everyone  should   have  an  equal  opportunity  to                                                               
succeed. Sometimes  certain individuals need an  edge to succeed.                                                               
and he supports giving that assistance when needed.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:44:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL said the University  of Alaska has three separately                                                               
accredited universities  and 13 community campuses.  He asked Mr.                                                               
Michel what  his vision is for  the University of Alaska  (UA) in                                                               
Anchorage, Fairbanks, and Southeast.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MICHEL said he realizes  that universities are educationally,                                                               
economically,   and  socially   important  to   communities.  The                                                               
University of  Alaska must continue  to be a  quality institution                                                               
globally. However,  it cannot move  forward without  money. There                                                               
must be prudence  when looking at the  facilities and determining                                                               
what works best. He stated he was  too new to know how much might                                                               
be needed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:45:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN   asked  whether  he  thought   the  university  was                                                               
adequately funded.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. MICHEL  replied that  he has  only been  in the  position six                                                               
weeks  and  attended  one  meeting,   so  he  cannot  answer  the                                                               
question. He guaranteed he would be able to answer it in a year.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:46:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN said students who  have visited the Capitol have                                                               
expressed concerns  about the  quality of  the university  due to                                                               
four years of  funding cuts. Students starting  college this year                                                               
are identifying  UA as  undesirable.   He asked  if this  type of                                                               
student  evidence is  informative  regarding  whether funding  is                                                               
appropriate.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:47:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MICHEL  replied absolutely. He  said it  is the type  of base                                                               
information  the   university  should  gather.  He   opined  that                                                               
considering  current  world events,  the  UA  system is  uniquely                                                               
positioned  to attract  contracts  from  various agencies,  which                                                               
will help fix problems UA is experiencing.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:48:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN asked whether he  recognizes the tension between                                                               
funding and the ability of the university to move forward.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MICHEL  said   that  as  a  businessman  of   47  years,  he                                                               
understands business.  Investing in the business  of education is                                                               
necessary  to  move it  forward.  The  university can  accomplish                                                               
little  without identified  sources  of  funding. The  university                                                               
will need  funding to push forward.  He stated he would  love for                                                               
the university to move in  a positive direction. He expressed his                                                               
belief  that  President  Pitney  and the  Board  of  Regents  are                                                               
heading  in the  right  direction. He  opined  that the  concerns                                                               
students  mentioned  will  disappear   as  the  university  moves                                                               
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:50:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN said the Board of  Regents is a governance board. She                                                               
asked Mr.  Michel about service  and protecting the  public trust                                                               
as a regent.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:50:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MICHEL  said he  believes  strongly  in public  service  and                                                               
offers service outside of the  Board of Regents. Universities are                                                               
an integral part of communities  which is something that deserves                                                               
consideration when  planning activities or  instituting policies.                                                               
He opined  that setting the  university up  to do good  works now                                                               
will carry into the future.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:51:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  opened public  testimony on  the appointment  of Mr.                                                               
Michel; finding none, she closed public testimony.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:52:01 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN  announced  the   consideration  of  the  governor's                                                               
appointee  Mary Carlson  to the  Professional Teaching  Practices                                                               
Commission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:52:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MARY   CARLSON,   Appointee,  Professional   Teaching   Practices                                                               
Commission,  Department  of   Education  and  Early  Development,                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska,  provided a brief  personal and  work history.                                                               
She stated she  was the first to graduate college  in her family,                                                               
which influenced  other family members to  obtain college degrees                                                               
and broke a generational cycle  of not attending college. She has                                                               
been  a teacher,  principal, and  university school  of education                                                               
instructor.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TOBIN asked  which position  on the  commission she  would                                                               
fill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARLSON replied higher education.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:55:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS said he could  see from Ms. Carlson's resume that                                                               
she was an administrator and professor.  He asked if she had ever                                                               
taught for a school district.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:55:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CARLSON replied  that she taught for four  years in Virginia.                                                               
She also  taught in  Alaska at the  Fairbanks North  Star Borough                                                               
School District in an alternative program for expelled students.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:55:58 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS  said  one  of  the  unfortunate  goals  of  the                                                               
Professional   Teaching  Practices   Commission  is   to  address                                                               
teachers' misdeeds. He  asked if she was prepared to  take away a                                                               
teacher's certification.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARLSON replied  that the  process of  removing a  teacher's                                                               
certification is rigorous.  She would follow the  process, and if                                                               
a teacher were in violation, she would revoke the certification.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:57:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  opened public  testimony on  the appointment  of Ms.                                                               
Carlson; finding none, she closed public testimony.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:57:53 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS stated that in  accordance with AS 39.05.080, the                                                               
Senate Education  Standing Committee  reviewed the  following and                                                               
recommends the appointments  be forwarded to a  joint session for                                                               
consideration:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Professional Teaching Practices Commission                                                                                    
Mary Carlson - Fairbanks                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Signing  the   reports  regarding  appointments  to   boards  and                                                               
commissions in  no way reflects  individual members'  approval or                                                               
disapproval  of  the  appointees;   the  nominations  are  merely                                                               
forwarded to the full legislature for confirmation or rejection.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:58:21 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
3:59:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   TOBIN   reconvened   the  meeting   and   announced   the                                                               
consideration  of  the governor's  appointee  Ms.  Marcum to  the                                                               
University of Alaska Board of Regents.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:00:42 PM                                                                                                                    
BETHANY  MARCUM,   Appointee,  University  of  Alaska   Board  of                                                               
Regents,  Anchorage,  Alaska,  gave  a brief  personal  and  work                                                               
history.  She said  she  has  worked in  the  private sector  and                                                               
government. She received scholarships and  has a bachelor's and a                                                               
master's degree. She stated that  education has afforded her many                                                               
opportunities, so she wants to serve the university.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:01:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON   said  the   Board  of   Regents'  mission                                                               
statement  emphasizes the  North and  honors Alaska's  indigenous                                                               
and diverse  people. She  asked Ms.  Marcum whether  she supports                                                               
the mission and to give her  thoughts about the role of diversity                                                               
at the university.  She also asked Ms. Marcum to  explain how she                                                               
would uphold the mission.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:02:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. MARCUM replied  that she supports the  mission statement. She                                                               
learned about  the Alaska  Native Success  Initiative at  a board                                                               
meeting and fully supports outreach  to ensure the university has                                                               
indigenous students, staff, and  tenure-track faculty. She stated                                                               
her desire to make the  University of Alaska the premier northern                                                               
latitude  university. She  said the  university's mission  tracks                                                               
very closely with her vision.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  said Ms. Marcum  mentioned in  an education                                                               
committee hearing that  the Alaska Reads Act was  an example that                                                               
the Alaska  Policy Forum is  bipartisan. She asked Ms.  Marcum to                                                               
provide two more examples of the forum's bipartisan work.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARCUM replied  that occupational licensing is  a policy that                                                               
the Democratic  Party in  other states  leads in  supporting. The                                                               
Democratic  Party  knows  that   some  of  the  communities  most                                                               
affected  by  onerous  occupational  licensing  requirements  are                                                               
lower-income immigrants  who have trouble entering  the workforce                                                               
because   of  fees   and   training  requirements.   Occupational                                                               
licensing is  a bipartisan  reform that  the Alaska  Policy Forum                                                               
has  always supported.  She said  the forum  also supported  last                                                               
year's state  checkbook bill by  Senator Wielechowski.  The forum                                                               
also  supports  a bill  by  Representative  Story to  extend  the                                                               
Alaska Performance Scholarship to  career and technical education                                                               
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:05:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON  opined  that Ms.  Marcum's  fiscal  policy                                                               
stance generally  leans towards  reduced government  spending and                                                               
increased private  investment. She  asked whether  the university                                                               
needed more funding or less funding to succeed.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARCUM  replied that she  had only  been in the  position for                                                               
six weeks. She has seen the  proposed budget and was pleased that                                                               
the governor put forward a good  portion of the funding. She said                                                               
she  is concerned  about deferred  maintenance not  being funded.                                                               
The capital  budget is a  lot different than what  the university                                                               
proposed.  She  said she  did  not  know  enough to  say  whether                                                               
funding  could be  found or  whether the  university had  enough.                                                               
However, she  stated her belief  that there are  initiatives that                                                               
would   require  more   funding.  President   Pitney  prioritized                                                               
spending  well,  but the  university  cannot  pay for  everything                                                               
without funds. Funding needs to be  looked at to determine how to                                                               
fill gaps.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:07:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL   asked Ms. Marcum how she perceives  her role as a                                                               
regent, and  her vision  for the  University of  Alaska Southeast                                                               
(UAS). He  opined that  regents generally  offer no  attention or                                                               
malign attention  to UAS. Being  happy to  be neglected is  a bad                                                               
place to be.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARCUM replied  that  she  does not  know  enough about  the                                                               
entirety of  the UA system  to say  that her vision  is different                                                               
from  the  missions  of  the   regional  universities.  She  said                                                               
Fairbanks  focuses  on  academic   research,  Anchorage  on  open                                                               
enrollment, and  Southeast is a  regional campus. Some  fields of                                                               
study are  unique to an  area and are most  appropriately handled                                                               
by that  region's campus, such  as UAS handling  mariculture. She                                                               
said if there  is an opportunity to expand UAS  beyond a regional                                                               
campus she is open to the discussion.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS  said   he  was  a  history   professor  at  the                                                               
university  for   25  years.  Two  studies   concluded  that  the                                                               
university  has  too  many administrators  and  should  focus  on                                                               
hiring more faculty. He requested  that she investigate the issue                                                               
if the legislature confirms her  appointment. He asked if she had                                                               
any comments.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARCUM  said Senator Steven's  staff provided her  with links                                                               
to  the studies.  She plans  to review  the studies  and ask  the                                                               
board if there are new studies.  It is incumbent upon the regents                                                               
to look  at all the  information available and  determine whether                                                               
change is needed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:10:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  said that  as a senator, she represents all                                                               
people, but  as a woman  of color, she  wants to ensure  that the                                                               
Board of  Regents fairly  represents people  of color.  She asked                                                               
what Ms.  Marcum would  do as  a regent to  ensure the  voices of                                                               
people of color are heard and represented by the board.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARCUM  agreed that it is  important for regents to  hear the                                                               
voices  of   everyone.  She  worked  with   people  from  diverse                                                               
backgrounds  while  in the  military.  One  of  her jobs  in  the                                                               
military  was unit  engagement.  It required  her  to visit  with                                                               
troops and airmen regarding their  well-being. Part of a regent's                                                               
job should be outreach to all  students and faculty because it is                                                               
important to hear directly from individuals.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:12:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN asked  a question  specific to  public comments  Ms.                                                               
Marcum  made  at  a  redistricting  meeting.  The  comments  were                                                               
regarding the  over-representation of Eagle River  at the expense                                                               
of North Muldoon. She opined  that Ms. Marcum does not prioritize                                                               
geographic  representation  and  fair   voice  when  serving  the                                                               
public. She asked Ms. Marcum for her thoughts.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARCUM replied that her comments  at that meeting were out of                                                               
context  and   incomplete.  She   wanted  Muldoon  to   have  the                                                               
opportunity to  have three senators  because there  were distinct                                                               
groups  with distinct  voices. She  wanted them  to have  as much                                                               
voice  as possible.  She opined  that the  Eagle River  issue was                                                               
about  the  military. She  said  she  stated  her belief  to  the                                                               
redistricting  board  several  times;   the  military  should  be                                                               
districted in the  communities they live. She  said court rulings                                                               
are continuing. In  general terms, she was trying  to ensure that                                                               
people  were  heard  and  represented.  She  was  not  trying  to                                                               
represent any particular body or people unfairly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TOBIN stated  that  she  is concerned  about  the lack  of                                                               
diversity among  the regent appointees. Western  and rural Alaska                                                               
are not represented. She stated  that having a board concentrated                                                               
in one view and voice concerns  her. She asked Ms. Marcum how she                                                               
would address the issue.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARCUM  replied that  she wants  to reach  out and  talk with                                                               
people because  there is no  reason not to  communicate directly.                                                               
She  also favors  meeting  with groups  of  people. Meeting  with                                                               
students, faculty,  and staff takes  effort. Being a regent  is a                                                               
time-consuming job.  Meeting with  people is  part of  a regent's                                                               
job.  She is  committed to  doing  the job  of a  regent. She  is                                                               
willing to go wherever is needed and answer difficult questions.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:15:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN  said Ms. Marcum  told him in  conversation that                                                               
she  was  comfortable with  the  level  of funding  the  governor                                                               
provided  to the  university. However,  during  the hearing,  Ms.                                                               
Marcum stated  she had  concerns about the  level of  funding. He                                                               
asked what changed her opinion.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:16:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. MARCUM replied  that when she spoke to  Senator Bjorkman, she                                                               
primarily  had been  looking  at the  operating  budget. She  was                                                               
aware there were deferred maintenance  issues, but looking at the                                                               
budget closely, she recognized that  a fair amount of the capital                                                               
budget was unfunded.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL said  he  is  passionate about  and  proud of  the                                                               
University  of  Alaska Southeast  (UAS).  UAS  has a  college  of                                                               
education.  He  said  K-12  teachers   and  students  supply  the                                                               
university with  most of  its students. He  asked Ms.  Marcum for                                                               
her view on public education  and if she considers the university                                                               
part of the K-12 school system.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARCUM replied there is no  doubt that the university is part                                                               
of Alaska's  education system.  It is part  of the  Department of                                                               
Education and Early Child Development (DEED).                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL recalled Ms. Marcum  saying she was "distraught for                                                               
Alaska children who are trapped  in public schools." He asked for                                                               
an explanation  of the statement  because the board  oversees one                                                               
of Alaska's public education institutions.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARCUM  replied that some  children are trapped,  not because                                                               
it is  a public school,  but because  the school assigned  by zip                                                               
code  does not  necessarily  meet the  child's needs.  Meanwhile,                                                               
another nearby school might be a  better fit. She stated that her                                                               
concern is for students to  be in learning environments that suit                                                               
their  learning   styles  and  needs.  Families   have  different                                                               
capacities  to  place  children   in  schools.  She  provided  an                                                               
anecdotal  story  to  illustrate  her point.  Parents  must  have                                                               
options  when   their  children  are  trapped   in  schools  that                                                               
adversely affect them.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:21:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL responded  that he appreciates her  comments and is                                                               
proud to represent schools with  open enrollment. However, Senate                                                               
Joint Resolution 9  was about vouchers for  private and religious                                                               
schools, not charter or neighborhood  schools. Current and future                                                               
teachers  in   Alaska  are   concerned  about   the  university's                                                               
governing approach to public schools  because it is where most of                                                               
them work or will work in the future.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARCUM  answered  that  teachers  should  not  be  concerned                                                               
because  public  schools will  always  exist.  Eighty percent  of                                                               
students attend public  schools in Alaska. She  stated her belief                                                               
that less than  two percent of students in  Alaska attend private                                                               
schools. She opined  that public schools will  always be Alaska's                                                               
primary education  mode. Data shows  that private  schools create                                                               
competition,  which creates  better  public schools.  There is  a                                                               
nationwide  movement to  establish school  choice, also  known as                                                               
education choice. She said states  that utilize school choice are                                                               
producing better public schools.  She wants better public schools                                                               
for  Alaska. She  said she  does not  see a  conflict in  letting                                                               
parents have an option between private and good public schools.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TOBIN mentioned a supreme  court decision that included the                                                               
words "secretive  procedures and misinformation" that  Ms. Marcum                                                               
used. She  said the Board of  Regents is a governance  board, and                                                               
Ms. Marcum's track record shows she  does not value it. She asked                                                               
Ms. Marcum  for her philosophy  about public service,  support of                                                               
public schools, and protecting public trust.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARCUM  replied  that  her  philosophy  has  been  the  same                                                               
throughout  her  life. She  has  a  life  of public  service  and                                                               
chooses to put herself forward  for the position because families                                                               
and  students  should  have   opportunities  through  the  public                                                               
university  system.   Laws  for   open  meetings   are  extremely                                                               
important.  She abided  by them  in the  previous board  and will                                                               
continue to abide by them, regardless of what others may think.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:24:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  opened public  testimony on  the appointment  of Ms.                                                               
Marcum to the University of Alaska Board of Regents.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:24:52 PM                                                                                                                    
YARROW  SILVERS,  representing  self, Anchorage,  Alaska,  stated                                                               
that  as  the  CEO  of   the  Alaska  Policy  Forum,  Ms.  Marcum                                                               
continually advocated for slashing  university funding, which has                                                               
created problems  for the state.  She provided an example  of the                                                               
type of  policies the forum  advocates and said the  forum pushes                                                               
policy  agendas  without  presenting  all the  facts.  Since  the                                                               
budget cuts,  tuition has  increased, programs  have been  cut or                                                               
reduced,  and enrollment  has declined  from  26,000 students  in                                                               
2019  to  about  20,000  in  2023. That  is  6,000  fewer  people                                                               
contributing  to  the  state's  economy  and  potentially  making                                                               
Alaska  their  home.  She  said   the  University  of  Alaska  is                                                               
nonpartisan,  and  Ms. Marcum  was  on  the redistricting  board,                                                               
which  is also  nonpartisan. While  serving on  the redistricting                                                               
board, Ms.  Marcum pushed through  a highly  partisan, community-                                                               
damaging, and  ultimately illegal political gerrymander.  It cost                                                               
the state  over $1 million in  legal fees and would  have muffled                                                               
the voices  of diverse and  economically disadvantaged  people in                                                               
East Anchorage. Appointees  should be willing to act  in the best                                                               
interest of the  university in an honest manner.  She opined that                                                               
Ms. Marcum is not fit for the board.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:27:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MAE PITKA,  representing self, Russian Mission,  Alaska, said she                                                               
was  raised and  teaches in  Russian Mission.  She has  witnessed                                                               
high teacher turnover for 29  years. She hopes some students will                                                               
become teachers and  work in Russian Mission. She  supports SB 97                                                               
because longevity  incentives with lump sum  payments can attract                                                               
teachers.  Teacher retention  requires financial  incentives. She                                                               
thanked the committee for supporting teachers in Alaska.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TOBIN  apologized for the  error. She encouraged  Ms. Pitka                                                               
to call  back when SB  97 opens for  public testimony. SB  97 was                                                               
scheduled but removed from the agenda.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:29:39 PM                                                                                                                    
JOAN  FRANZ, representing  self, Fairbanks,  Alaska, stated  that                                                               
quality  education   and  healthcare  are  essential   needs  for                                                               
communities. She  said Ms.  Marcum's position as  the CEO  of the                                                               
Alaska Policy Forum indicates that  she does not support Alaska's                                                               
court or  understand the importance  of quality education  at all                                                               
levels.  Cutting  public  education   funding  does  not  improve                                                               
education, yet  she cheered the Arduin-Dunleavy  education budget                                                               
cuts. She  consistently has not  shown support for  the financial                                                               
funding of education.  Budget cuts to education have  also had an                                                               
impact  on   the  Fairbanks   economy.  Alaska   needs  teachers,                                                               
healthcare  professionals,  and  engineers.  She  encouraged  the                                                               
committee not to support Ms. Marcum.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:32:35 PM                                                                                                                    
JOELLE  HALL,   President,  American  Federation  of   Labor  and                                                               
Congress   of   Industrial    Organizations   (AFL-CIO)   Alaska,                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska, stated  that Ms.  Marcum has  employment that                                                               
makes  it  inappropriate  for  her  to serve  as  a  regent.  Ms.                                                               
Marcum's  job  as the  CEO  of  the  Alaska  Policy Forum  is  to                                                               
influence public policy,  even if it is contrary to  the Board of                                                               
Regent's  position. In  2019, the  Alaska Policy  Forum supported                                                               
cuts that  would have devastated Alaska's  university system. The                                                               
forum  routinely supports  cuts  to government  and is  currently                                                               
opposing a bill  that would give public  employees and university                                                               
faculty and staff  the option to have a  defined benefit pension.                                                               
She stated  that it is unreasonable  to think Ms. Marcum  can act                                                               
autonomously because  she answers to  the board of  directors and                                                               
the state policy network that provides the bulk of her funding.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HALL  said  her  job   as  the  president  of  the  American                                                               
Federation  of Labor  and  Congress  of Industrial  Organizations                                                               
(AFL-CIO) is to advocate for  faculty and staff and encourage the                                                               
legislature to  improve wages, benefits, and  working conditions.                                                               
She opined that if the  committee was comfortable with Ms. Marcum                                                               
serving  on the  Board of  Regents, then  they would  need to  be                                                               
comfortable with  her serving  on the  board. As  a leader  of an                                                               
organization,  Ms.  Marcum  cannot  represent the  needs  of  the                                                               
university above the  needs of the organization  without the risk                                                               
of being  fired. It  is an  irreconcilable conflict  of interest.                                                               
She said  she would like  to be a  volunteer board member  if the                                                               
legislature confirms Ms. Marcum.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:35:12 PM                                                                                                                    
KIM  HAYS,   representing  self,  Anchorage,  Alaska,   said  she                                                               
received  two degrees  from the  University of  Alaska Anchorage.                                                               
She is  proud of the  university and  stated her belief  that the                                                               
Board  of Regents  should  advocate for  robust  funding for  all                                                               
campuses. Workforce  development is essential for  the university                                                               
and all  of Alaska's employers and  programs. Now is the  time to                                                               
have a board  that understands it is paramount  to retain faculty                                                               
and  staff and  encourage recruitment.  Governor Dunleavy's  $130                                                               
million budget  cut shocked  the university  system in  2019. She                                                               
said   most   Alaskans   were  against   the   cuts   and   asked                                                               
representatives to oppose them. Ms.  Marcum and the Alaska Policy                                                               
Forum supported  the draconian cuts as  a way for Alaska  to "get                                                               
back on  track." This is as  logical as the saying  "the beatings                                                               
will continue until morale improves."  She questioned the ability                                                               
of Ms. Marcum  to advocate for the university  when she supported                                                               
the cuts. It is  a fox in the hen house  situation. As an alumnus                                                               
she is not interested in gutting the university.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:37:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MIKE  GRUNST,  representing  self,  Anchorage,  Alaska  said  the                                                               
Alaska  Policy  Forum  is  an   organization  funded  by  outside                                                               
interests and affiliated with the  Freedom Network. As CEO of the                                                               
Alaska Policy  Forum, Ms. Marcum advocated  for university budget                                                               
cuts  in  2019.   He  quoted  her  as  saying,   "It's  just  not                                                               
sustainable to  continue to  subsidize government  with savings."                                                               
He questioned  how the  state would  fund the  university without                                                               
government subsidy.  He opined that  her goal is to  siphon money                                                               
from  public  schools and  support  school  vouchers. The  Alaska                                                               
Policy  Forum  advocates  for   tuition  freezes  and  innovative                                                               
spending reductions. It opposed  two-person crew railroads, which                                                               
would be  like advocating for  dismantling the Puget  Sound whale                                                               
response  teams.  Schools  need administrative  positions  to  be                                                               
productive and  safe. He opined  that Alaska should have  taken a                                                               
long view  of education like Texas  did 40 years ago.  Today, the                                                               
Texas school  system ranks high  nationally. Texas has  created a                                                               
system that  is an education  and economic benefit  that attracts                                                               
people to the  state. He described how  Alaska's education system                                                               
should be structured to succeed.  Alaska is the least taxed state                                                               
in the nation; residents do  not pay anything for state services.                                                               
Alaska  has the  money to  solve its  problems but  not with  Ms.                                                               
Marcum on the Board of Regents.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:42:32 PM                                                                                                                    
ALEX JORGENSEN, representing self,  Anchorage, Alaska, said he is                                                               
a  graduate student  at UAA.  He was  at the  student union  when                                                               
Governor  Dunleavy  proposed  the  $130 million  budget  cut.  He                                                               
opined that  the cut  was reckless  and would  dismantle Alaska's                                                               
only public university  system. Ms. Marcum supported  the cut. He                                                               
said  he  could not  square  the  fiduciary responsibility  of  a                                                               
regent with Ms. Marcum's past actions.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:44:09 PM                                                                                                                    
HERMAN  MORGAN,  representing self,  Aniak,  Alaska,  said he  is                                                               
disappointed  that   the  committee  members  do   not  represent                                                               
education. Alaska  has the lowest  test scores in the  nation but                                                               
is the  most expensive. He  opined that  Ms. Marcum was  right to                                                               
support  the cut  because  the  cost to  the  state  could be  $8                                                               
billion without controlled spending.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:47:59 PM                                                                                                                    
ALEX  BAKER,  representing  self,  Anchorage,  Alaska,  said  Ms.                                                               
Marcum served on the redistricting  board and violated Alaska law                                                               
twice. She  has not  earned public trust.  There are  hundreds of                                                               
pages  of court  documents  outlining her  actions.  She has  not                                                               
learned  from her  past actions.  She is  not fit  to serve  as a                                                               
regent.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:49:50 PM                                                                                                                    
LAURA  BONNER, representing  self,  Anchorage,  Alaska, said  Ms.                                                               
Marcum  publicly exploited  the $130  million budget  cut to  the                                                               
university. The  cuts resulted in  the reduction of  programs and                                                               
resources.  The cuts  led  to the  outmigration  of students  and                                                               
workers  and crippled  education, research  grants, and  deferred                                                               
maintenance. Ms.  Marcum's position with the  Alaska Policy Forum                                                               
cherry-picks  studies   and  facts  supporting   its  principles,                                                               
resulting in biased  findings. She opined that  Ms. Marcum cannot                                                               
serve in  a nonpartisan manner,  as demonstrated when  serving on                                                               
the  redistricting   board.  The  university   provides  economic                                                               
opportunity to  the state. She said  Ms. Marcum is a  poor choice                                                               
for the Board of Regents.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:52:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  closed public  testimony on  the appointment  of Ms.                                                               
Marcum.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:52:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. MARCUM  stated that  legal counsel assured  her there  was no                                                               
conflict of interest serving on  the Board of Regents and working                                                               
as the CEO  of the Alaska Policy Forum. She  said that during the                                                               
House  Education Committee  hearing, she  addressed false  claims                                                               
that she  championed the  university budget  cut. She  noted that                                                               
only Alaskans are  on the Alaska Policy Forum's  board. She asked                                                               
the committee  to read  the letters  of support  that individuals                                                               
submitted on her behalf.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:53:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN  announced  the   consideration  of  the  governor's                                                               
appointee  Ms. Harrison  to  the University  of  Alaska Board  of                                                               
Regents.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:53:49 PM                                                                                                                    
PAULA  HARRISON,   Appointee,  University  of  Alaska   Board  of                                                               
Regents, Fairbanks,  Alaska, stated that her  daughters graduated                                                               
from the University of Alaska  and are successful. She would like                                                               
to serve on the Board of Regents to give back to the university.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:54:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON   said  the   Board  of   Regents'  mission                                                               
statement  emphasizes the  North and  honors Alaska's  indigenous                                                               
and  diverse  people. She  asked  if  Ms. Harrison  supports  the                                                               
mission and to share her thoughts  about the role of diversity at                                                               
the university.  She also asked  Ms. Harrison to explain  how she                                                               
would uphold the university's mission.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:55:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  HARRISON replied  that she  supports the  mission statement.                                                               
She  worked  in human  resources,  where  diversity, equity,  and                                                               
inclusion  are   a  priority.  She  would   broaden  the  mission                                                               
statement to include  more people because Alaska  is diverse, and                                                               
many people consider it their home.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:56:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  asked Ms. Harrison  what she  would do for  UAS if                                                               
she had a magic wand.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:56:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. HARRISON  said she  worked for the  University of  Alaska for                                                               
seven  years. She  served the  Anchorage and  Southeast campuses.                                                               
The UAS  campus is beautiful, and  she is supportive of  it. Each                                                               
campus serves the needs of the local community.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:57:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL   recognized  that  Ms.  Harrison   has  extensive                                                               
experience   in  labor   relations,  which   is  different   from                                                               
university  leadership.  He  asked  what her  concept  of  shared                                                               
governance   is  and   if  the   university  handles   governance                                                               
correctly.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARRISON replied that the  university is doing it right. Each                                                               
campus has a  faculty governance and senate.  The university also                                                               
has  a  statewide  faculty  and  staff  alliance.  She  said  the                                                               
organizations she has worked with have administrative input.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:59:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN asked if the UA system is adequately funded.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARRISON replied  that the  word adequate  would need  to be                                                               
defined.  The  Board  of Regents  makes  various  determinations,                                                               
including adequate funding. She  opined that deferred maintenance                                                               
is not  adequately funded. She  rhetorically asked how  the state                                                               
could   provide    communities   with   a    university   without                                                               
infrastructure.  She  said  that   deferred  maintenance  is  her                                                               
passion, and the  legislature must fund according  to a schedule,                                                               
so the university does not fall further behind.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:00:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN said the Board of  Regents is a governance board. She                                                               
asked Ms.  Harrison to explain  her philosophy  regarding service                                                               
and upholding public trust.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARRISON  said she has served  on many boards. She  was chair                                                               
of  the Alaska  Labor  Relations Agency  for  four years.  Public                                                               
trust   is  paramount.   When  others   perceive   a  person   as                                                               
untrustworthy, their decisions go nowhere.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:01:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  opened public  testimony on  the appointment  of Ms.                                                               
Harrison; finding none, she closed public testimony.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARRISON thanked the committee for the opportunity to meet.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:01:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  stated the confirmation  hearing for Mr.  Crum would                                                               
take place April 5.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:02:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS stated that in  accordance with AS 39.05.080, the                                                               
Senate Education  Standing Committee  reviewed the  following and                                                               
recommends the appointments  be forwarded to a  joint session for                                                               
consideration:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
University of Alaska Board of Regents                                                                                         
Dennis Michel - Fairbanks                                                                                                       
Bethany Marcum - Anchorage                                                                                                      
Paula Harrison - Fairbanks                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Signing  the   reports  regarding  appointments  to   boards  and                                                               
commissions in  no way reflects  individual members'  approval or                                                               
disapproval  of  the  appointees;   the  nominations  are  merely                                                               
forwarded to the full legislature for confirmation or rejection.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:03:10 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Tobin adjourned  the Senate  Education Standing  Committee                                                               
meeting at 5:03 p.m.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Bethany Marcum - Application_Redacted.pdf SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
University of Alaska
Bethany Marcum - Resume_Redacted.pdf SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
University of Alaska
Dennis Michel - Board Application_Redacted.pdf SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
University of Alaska
Dennis Michel - resume_Redacted.pdf SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
University of Alaska
Joey Crum - Board Application_Redacted.pdf SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
University of Alaska
Joey Crum - Resume_Redacted.pdf SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
University of Alaska
Paula Harrison - Board Application_Redacted.pdf SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
University of Alaska
Paula Harrison - Resume_Redacted.pdf SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
University of Alaska
Mary Carlson - Application_Redacted 03.21.2023.pdf SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
Professional Teaching Practices Commission
Mary Carlson - Resume_Redacted 03.21.2023.pdf SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
Professional Teaching Practices Commission
SB 97 Version A 03.17.2023.PDF SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 97
SB 97 Sectional Analysis 3.10.2023.pdf SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 97
SB 97 Transmission Letter 03.17.2023.pdf SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 97
SB 97 Hearing Request Memo 3.13.2023.pdf SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 97
SB 97 Fiscal Note EED-SSA 03.06.2023.pdf SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 97
Bethany Marcum Testimony - Updated Received as of 03.24.2023.pdf SEDC 3/24/2023 3:30:00 PM
University of Alaska